Comment from Hazy
Time: November 17, 2008, 11:39 am

Perhaps a little obvious, but how about Mary Jane?

Comment from Sarah
Time: November 17, 2008, 11:42 am

She looks like a Becky to me.

Comment from Andrea Wilson
Time: November 17, 2008, 11:45 am

She looks like my sister Emma, when she was younger. Really pretty!

Comment from Jane
Time: November 17, 2008, 11:46 am

Madeline.

Comment from natalie
Time: November 17, 2008, 11:47 am

You do know, don’t you, that whatever you call her, ALL the blonde ones will be known as Ysolda?

Comment from marrije
Time: November 17, 2008, 11:52 am

Claire! She looks just like the lovely Claire from Loobylu.com. Who usually wears more clothes :-)

Comment from sally
Time: November 17, 2008, 12:05 pm

Wow!! so cute, reminds me of my little girl Lily

Comment from Issy
Time: November 17, 2008, 12:07 pm

Pearl (or Purl!)

Comment from Reve
Time: November 17, 2008, 12:12 pm

Catalina, or Isabelle. She’s so sweet. Will there be a pattern for her?

Comment from merete
Time: November 17, 2008, 12:15 pm

i think her name is alba. she is white and scottish and cute.

Comment from jenny
Time: November 17, 2008, 12:19 pm

I think she is called Dolly

Comment from Erin
Time: November 17, 2008, 12:20 pm

I agree with Jane… she looks like Madeline from the books!!

Comment from Renate Braul
Time: November 17, 2008, 12:23 pm

To me she is Ofelia, the girl from Pan’s Labyrinth. She’s lovely :)

Comment from Camille
Time: November 17, 2008, 12:26 pm

I’d give her a classy old-fashioned name, like Violet. I could totally see her in a purple calico dress.

Comment from The Scarlet Tree
Time: November 17, 2008, 12:28 pm

I have always loved the name Neve…

Comment from Abigail
Time: November 17, 2008, 12:28 pm

How about Madeline. I love her shoes.

Comment from Inga
Time: November 17, 2008, 12:28 pm

She’s so cute and looks like a Hazel to me.

Comment from Cat
Time: November 17, 2008, 12:32 pm

If you wanted to go fairy tale, you could always try ‘Karen’ for the girl from ‘The Red Shoes’ (though she looks much nicer than that), or make her a little red cloak and call her little red riding hood?

Regardless, though, she’s lovely!

Comment from Musseblomman
Time: November 17, 2008, 12:33 pm

I saw Yazmina as soon as I looked at her..

Comment from Merja
Time: November 17, 2008, 12:35 pm

She is really cute and looks just like Lotta (in Finnish) or perhaps Lotte.

Best wishes
Merja

Comment from Breanna
Time: November 17, 2008, 12:38 pm

I’d call her Rose. She’s adorable, especially the little red barette

Comment from Tor
Time: November 17, 2008, 12:45 pm

I like the ideas suggested about of Rose and Ophelia.

I thought Alice as soon as I saw her shoes and then I saw Morag as soon as I saw her hair…

Comment from Wakenda
Time: November 17, 2008, 1:01 pm

My first thought was Anneliese.

Comment from Liz T.
Time: November 17, 2008, 1:03 pm

I think she looks like an Emily.

Comment from Tasha
Time: November 17, 2008, 1:06 pm

I, too, think she’s an Emily. Or maybe Annalisa.

Comment from Tumblina
Time: November 17, 2008, 1:30 pm

Amelia. Don’t know why, just jumped into my head. Haven’

Comment from Carla
Time: November 17, 2008, 1:40 pm

I just got a kitten and I named her Hazel- Perhaps Hazel?

Comment from Eleanor (undeadgoat)
Time: November 17, 2008, 1:41 pm

Melinda. Definitely a Melinda. (If I make her, that’s what I’d call her . . .)

Comment from SylvChezPlum
Time: November 17, 2008, 1:46 pm

How about Miss Maud ? Can’t wait to see her all dressed up ! :-P

Comment from Chris
Time: November 17, 2008, 1:47 pm

She looks like a Penelope to me. Or Penny…

Comment from Catherine
Time: November 17, 2008, 1:50 pm

I rather like the name Moira for her.

Comment from Signe
Time: November 17, 2008, 1:51 pm

I think her name is Thea

Comment from Alice from france
Time: November 17, 2008, 2:02 pm

Ho i love Moira name! But when i see this doll, i called her Amelia.

Good luck to choose between all the pretty names we gave for her!
I look at your construction and it seems always ingenius!!

Comment from Diane
Time: November 17, 2008, 2:02 pm

When I saw her the names Emma and Madeline immediately came to mind.

Comment from Sam
Time: November 17, 2008, 2:06 pm

I see a Caroline.

Comment from Leanne Pizio
Time: November 17, 2008, 2:11 pm

What about Posie? She would look so cute in a peach colored dress with her red shoes.
I also like Ruby and Miss Maud.
Good Luck!

Comment from meg
Time: November 17, 2008, 2:12 pm

How about Bea? Or Cailín, because it means ‘girl.’

Comment from Rhian
Time: November 17, 2008, 2:22 pm

She’s adorable, and looks like a Sophie (or Sophy) to me.

Comment from misplacedpom
Time: November 17, 2008, 2:25 pm

I spy a Josephine….

Comment from Melinda
Time: November 17, 2008, 2:27 pm

I like the name Agnes.

She’s super cute.

Comment from Brenda
Time: November 17, 2008, 2:32 pm

She looks like a Sophie to me.

Comment from sparklycat
Time: November 17, 2008, 2:33 pm

I think Scarlet and I think she needs a mini Sylvi added to her wardrobe.
She’s lovely.

Comment from Kim
Time: November 17, 2008, 2:36 pm

Abigail

Though I love the names Ruby, Emily, Emma (or Emma Jane) Sarah and Hope

Comment from Ingrid
Time: November 17, 2008, 2:37 pm

She looks exactly like a Caroline.

Comment from Olivia
Time: November 17, 2008, 2:50 pm

I may have a slight bias, but I think she looks exactly like an Olivia.

Comment from Rose
Time: November 17, 2008, 2:50 pm

She looks like an Ellie to me.

Comment from NerdGirl
Time: November 17, 2008, 2:56 pm

She looks like a Zola or and Elva to me. Those are the names of a couple of my great aunts who were fun but very practical, independent women.

Comment from elaine
Time: November 17, 2008, 3:04 pm

Yes, she should definitely be a madeline - like madeline the rag doll in Bagpuss!
I do like the other suggestions of hazel and moira. I noticed a couple of commenters names - Camille and Abigail - those would suit her too. You are going to have a hard job choosing!

Comment from Diana
Time: November 17, 2008, 3:09 pm

Heather, she looks like a Heathe to me.

I know how hard it is to find a name for a doll, and I guess now it will be even harder with all those ideas

^_^

Comment from Stephanella
Time: November 17, 2008, 3:32 pm

How about Milla? She reminds me of a young Milla Jovovich, you know, the model/actress?

Comment from amy [knitty]
Time: November 17, 2008, 3:33 pm

Bethany.

Comment from Kate
Time: November 17, 2008, 3:42 pm

I agree with those who have said Madeline. Although, I also like Linnea - she reminds me of the character from “Linnea in Monet’s Garden,” a favorite childrens book of mine. :)

Comment from Lauren Oldham
Time: November 17, 2008, 3:43 pm

Eloise

Comment from Nephele
Time: November 17, 2008, 3:45 pm

The first name that popped into my mind when I looked at her was: Melanie.

Comment from Cirilia
Time: November 17, 2008, 3:46 pm

Aw, she looks like my little cousin Irena Rose:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43968257@N00/2419012537/in/set-72157604574769578/

Comment from betty
Time: November 17, 2008, 3:57 pm

Capuccine. Today I discovered her, and I really think your doll looks after her!!!!

http://vimeo.com/833990

Comment from Leah
Time: November 17, 2008, 4:03 pm

AHH! She is so cute. She looks like a Jessica or Emily to me.

Comment from ambermoggie
Time: November 17, 2008, 4:26 pm

Yolanda
Marisa

Comment from Gemma Wilson
Time: November 17, 2008, 4:26 pm

As its near Remembrance Day what about Poppy? Especially if she had a red dress to match her shoes.
Best wishes

Comment from Arianwen
Time: November 17, 2008, 4:39 pm

I was going to suggest something else but, I agree with Gemma.Poppy would be a good name!

Comment from Erika
Time: November 17, 2008, 4:39 pm

Carolin

Comment from Charis
Time: November 17, 2008, 4:51 pm

I think she looks like a Greta. :-)

Comment from Heather R
Time: November 17, 2008, 4:52 pm

She looks like my good friend Erin who died when we were very young- just 16- so I think you should name her Erin. Plus it’s a good Irish name too!

Comment from Bloo
Time: November 17, 2008, 4:58 pm

She’s so sweet!
I like Mhairi or Andrina…

Comment from Hannah
Time: November 17, 2008, 5:09 pm

Poppy. Or Isabella. Or Elsie. She’s lovely.

Comment from Jane
Time: November 17, 2008, 5:12 pm

As soon as I saw her she reminded me of Roald Dahl’s Matilda!

Comment from emma lamb
Time: November 17, 2008, 5:13 pm

my first thought was - Clarissa

Comment from whitney
Time: November 17, 2008, 5:14 pm

she reminds me of clara (from ‘the nutcracker’…the feet made me think of a ballerina on pointe) or matilda! she’s so cute, but the smile makes her look a bit mischievous too! :)

Comment from LittleWit
Time: November 17, 2008, 5:20 pm

She’s darling. You could call her Mathilde.

Comment from Theresia
Time: November 17, 2008, 5:23 pm

I think she looks like a “Charlotte”.

Comment from Emilie
Time: November 17, 2008, 5:43 pm

I’m going to suggest the following:

-Janine
-Hazel
-Calliope
-Sasha

:)

Comment from JoezGal
Time: November 17, 2008, 5:45 pm

Adorable! Her little red ’shoes’ are so sweet and merry, and since it’s so close to Christmas, how about MerryJane?

Comment from Hilary
Time: November 17, 2008, 5:46 pm

I agree with all the Madeline comments above, but you could run into a copyright issue if you make the pattern available for sale… perhaps Maddie?

Her little red hair doo-dads are awesome - I burst into a big smile when I saw them!

Comment from Christina
Time: November 17, 2008, 5:47 pm

Prudence or Lydia.

Comment from regina
Time: November 17, 2008, 6:12 pm

Victoria
Nell
Emily
Daisy
Beatrice
Darcy

Comment from Helen
Time: November 17, 2008, 6:25 pm

Peggy. Definitely a Peggy.

Comment from Amanda
Time: November 17, 2008, 6:27 pm

Looks a bit like my little girl, Ella - so, Ella.

Comment from Suzanne
Time: November 17, 2008, 6:28 pm

Isabel
Michiko
Zoey

Comment from chelsea
Time: November 17, 2008, 6:37 pm

what a sweet sweet little lady. celeste, mayhaps?

Comment from Josiane
Time: November 17, 2008, 6:38 pm

She looks like my friend Magali, so to me, Magali she is!

Comment from Penny Peberdy
Time: November 17, 2008, 6:41 pm

I love the name Poppy too.

Comment from sarai.
Time: November 17, 2008, 6:43 pm

Her shoes and yarn hair remind me so much of my rag doll, Pam. But if she isn’t a Pam, she’s a Moira.

Comment from mai
Time: November 17, 2008, 6:44 pm

oh my gosh, she’s adorable! i love her hair and the little red hair ties. did you use a pattern or did you come up with it on your own?

Comment from Cynthia
Time: November 17, 2008, 6:52 pm

Grace

Comment from yarnpiggy
Time: November 17, 2008, 7:09 pm

She’s very sweet! You’ve already used my favourite name (Verity)…how about one of these:

Georgina
Rosie
Eve
Lydia
Zoe
Clara
Alice
Morwenna

Comment from Susan Sharpe
Time: November 17, 2008, 7:12 pm

here are my suggestions:

Lucy
Eleanor or Ellie
Daisy
Grace

Comment from Jeanie
Time: November 17, 2008, 7:16 pm

I think she looks like a Lucy! Really cute whatever you name her:) Is this part of your cute “collection”?

Comment from mary
Time: November 17, 2008, 7:27 pm

She looks like my daughter Sydney! Here’s a picture.
http://bp3.blogger.com/_pLgyaer3Sn4/R1eHBTAtSQI/AAAAAAAAA6o/WaypZJIkY6U/s1600-h/IMG_4908.JPG

Comment from lyndsey-jane
Time: November 17, 2008, 7:31 pm

I will have to suggest Amelia, as that is the name of my BF 4 mth old neice, who I can see receving one of these in the future (or at least as soon as the pattern is released - you are releasing the pattern aren’t you?)
I say go for a whole wardrobe, I’d definetely buy doll pattern along with a complete wardrobe of patterns for her.

Comment from Nikki
Time: November 17, 2008, 7:33 pm

What was the name of the girl in The Red Shoes? Karen?

Comment from Sally
Time: November 17, 2008, 7:33 pm

How about Gypsy Rose? She has no issues with nudity it seems, because all she needs is her personality! She’s a charmer.

Comment from Melinda
Time: November 17, 2008, 7:40 pm

I like Poppy too. Or possibly Harriet? What about Henrietta? Lucy was a good suggestion too.

Comment from Chris
Time: November 17, 2008, 7:50 pm

I’m totally fond of her ^_^
She’s really really sweet ^_^

And why not **Rose** ?

Comment from soknitpicky
Time: November 17, 2008, 7:52 pm

I like she looks like an Amelie. I love that movie!

Comment from särmä
Time: November 17, 2008, 7:53 pm

One vote for Elsie

Comment from Rodger
Time: November 17, 2008, 8:08 pm

Emilia or Opal, I think.

Comment from Ayesha
Time: November 17, 2008, 8:09 pm

She’s such a dear girl and if she were mine she’d be Milly - or maybe Harriet - or just maybe Amelie.
Will this be a new pattern for sale - please?

Comment from Carrie
Time: November 17, 2008, 8:10 pm

She definitely looks like a Samantha to me.

Comment from Christina
Time: November 17, 2008, 8:30 pm

Dolly also sprang to my mind and Poppy is great, but my favorite is: Dorothy! My flatmates always call me this, when I wear red shoes… and somewhere over the rainbow, your gorgeous girl might come alive. ;o)

Comment from Maria
Time: November 17, 2008, 8:43 pm

I have a pretty German name to give away: Leni - my daughter’s name. She loves red shoes. And dresses. Maria

Comment from Carie
Time: November 17, 2008, 8:44 pm

My first thoughts were Poppy and Caroline or on reflection possibly Dora

It’s funny how the same names pop out to so many people - I’m sure there’s some sort of sociological conclusion to be drawn from which names come from which parts of the world.

Comment from Leigh
Time: November 17, 2008, 9:07 pm

I’m not sure why, but I really like the name Leigh. I think that she is a Genevieve, though.

Comment from Becca
Time: November 17, 2008, 9:11 pm

Oh my God, this is just about the cutest thing ever!!!!! Im having a daughter in Feb whom I will name Violet who I would looooove to knit this for!!! Pattern soon?

Comment from lucie
Time: November 17, 2008, 9:21 pm

She is gorgeous. Scarlett …. or Rosa maybe. I REALLY want to make this for my little girl.

Comment from Danielle
Time: November 17, 2008, 9:30 pm

As soon as I saw her, I thought she looked like an Else/Elsa. So cute, btw.

Comment from Hero
Time: November 17, 2008, 9:49 pm

Jenny, to me. But I liked Moira and Alba too. Isn’t weird how a good 75% seem to favour names ending in an eee sound? Girly names do, I guess.

Comment from debolsillo
Time: November 17, 2008, 10:00 pm

I think that her name is Beth :)

Comment from Wendy
Time: November 17, 2008, 10:07 pm

She looks like a Dorothy Joy. That was my mother’s name.

Comment from Debbie
Time: November 17, 2008, 10:20 pm

I think her name should be Liesl or Posie (although that might be a bit confusing in the pattern selling department!).

Comment from Clare
Time: November 17, 2008, 10:26 pm

Imogen.

Since your name (by a different spelling) was used by Shakespeare, the name that Shakespeare made up/ adapted from the Gaelic Irish word for ‘girl’ seems to fit somehow.

Comment from Katya
Time: November 17, 2008, 10:36 pm

for some reason she reminds me of the movie Amelie…. go figure

Comment from –Deb
Time: November 17, 2008, 10:40 pm

Mary Jane, to go with the shoes.

But then, I thought Betsy and Beth at first….

Either way, she’s adorable, and I think she DESERVES a whole wardrobe!

Comment from PrairiePoppins
Time: November 17, 2008, 11:16 pm

She seems serious and sweet, so my suggestion is Miriam.

Comment from the Lady
Time: November 17, 2008, 11:25 pm

Poppy?

Comment from Amber
Time: November 17, 2008, 11:41 pm

I really love her, and hope there will be a pattern. As for the name, well geez, with ruby red slippers like those she’s gotta be …. Dorothy!!!

Comment from Natalie
Time: November 18, 2008, 12:02 am

Mathilda! It was the first name that popped into my head. She’s so cute!

Comment from Bobbi
Time: November 18, 2008, 12:34 am

Bernadette aka Bernie

Comment from kat
Time: November 18, 2008, 12:41 am

I’d call her Ruby, for her shoes.

Comment from gunter
Time: November 18, 2008, 12:50 am

Elsa?

Comment from loribird
Time: November 18, 2008, 12:55 am

Perette!

She’s adorable, no matter what her name may be…

Comment from Keri
Time: November 18, 2008, 1:14 am

AYKM???!!!! I wish this pattern had been done and available a month ago. My niece would LOVE this for Christmas - but I made her a bunny instead. Oh well, maybe for her birthday??!!!

SO PRETTY!!!!!

And I like the name Emily. Or Violet.

Comment from Fuji Mama
Time: November 18, 2008, 1:24 am

Miel (French for “honey”) because she looks like a cute little French girl and she is as sweet as honey!

Comment from Eliza
Time: November 18, 2008, 1:30 am

what about Edelweiss? I knew a girl named that, and i always thought it was a beautiful name.

Comment from Melissa
Time: November 18, 2008, 1:33 am

She is so cute! I think she looks like a Ramona, though I’m also quite partial to Delphine.

Comment from kat
Time: November 18, 2008, 1:33 am

Babette!

Comment from annemarie
Time: November 18, 2008, 1:34 am

I second Imogen! or Lotte. :)

Comment from elizabeth
Time: November 18, 2008, 2:01 am

My three year-old, Ruby, suggests her own name. Or Sally. Or Violet. Or Sophie.

Comment from Thea
Time: November 18, 2008, 2:03 am

Okay, crazy bit. Somebody suggested my name of Thea, which is crazy because my name is weird and I kind of look like the doll with my short, dark hair and pale skin.
But I was going to suggest Ella.
And I love red shoes.
Weird.

Comment from Andrea
Time: November 18, 2008, 2:11 am

Matilda

Comment from Ceridwen Davies
Time: November 18, 2008, 2:43 am

Given her Scottish origins I think she probably has to be Fiona, or perhaps Fenella.

But if we’re going with Ysolda’s designs maybe Iseult?

Comment from Erica Winter
Time: November 18, 2008, 3:02 am

She looks like an Esther to me. :)

Comment from Sarah
Time: November 18, 2008, 3:11 am

I ordinarily wouldn’t do this sort of thing but she totally looks like my kid. See for yourself.

http://flickr.com/photos/51674556@N00/2147068593/

Her name is Lola. The kid’s, that is. The doll’s should be too, I think.

Comment from sioux
Time: November 18, 2008, 3:28 am

kate?

Comment from sioux
Time: November 18, 2008, 3:32 am

or mimi.

Comment from Sherri
Time: November 18, 2008, 3:34 am

well of course I’d pick my daughter’s name … Matilda Lou

Comment from Melissa
Time: November 18, 2008, 3:37 am

How about Sadie?

Comment from Eklectika
Time: November 18, 2008, 3:42 am

I vote for naming her Georgie!

Comment from Mai
Time: November 18, 2008, 3:50 am

I really like Anna-Marie! But all the other suggestions are so good, too…

Comment from Josée
Time: November 18, 2008, 4:17 am

My 15 yr old daughter is insisting she’s a Moe or Mollie, until I told her she reminds me of Kikki of the animated movie, Kikki’s Delivery Service. All she’s missing is a red bow in her hair, a black dress, a broom and a black cat. :)

Comment from Lissa
Time: November 18, 2008, 6:49 am

Has anyone mentioned Gwennie? I always liked that name.

Comment from liquifox
Time: November 18, 2008, 6:50 am

how about Yvette?

Comment from Maria
Time: November 18, 2008, 6:59 am

Mary Ann!

(Sorry if this was suggested already; I didn’t want to risk being influenced by the comments!)

Alternatively, she could be the Other Coraline.

Comment from circé
Time: November 18, 2008, 8:16 am

so cute!! she is a little Dita

Comment from Catrin
Time: November 18, 2008, 9:44 am

I think she is a Isla

Comment from Helen
Time: November 18, 2008, 9:52 am

She looks like a Mindy to me!

Comment from Karen
Time: November 18, 2008, 9:53 am

She is a very cute little sugarplum…….
How about Arwen?

Comment from Donna
Time: November 18, 2008, 10:54 am

Raglan. Or, Raglyn.

Comment from Judy
Time: November 18, 2008, 12:12 pm

Jasmine, which is my daughter’s name. Or Erin, which is what I would have called my second son, had he been a girl.

Comment from Kat
Time: November 18, 2008, 12:25 pm

She reminds me of Matilda. The movie Matilda had a charming little girl in it who had magical powers that she used to help the adults in her life see common sense.

Comment from De Muze
Time: November 18, 2008, 1:25 pm

Her red shoes remind me of Emily (or Émilie), a French Dick Bruna-esque cartoon from the 1980’s about a girl who only wears red.

Comment from Rachael
Time: November 18, 2008, 2:01 pm

Enid Blytons Amelia Jane.

Comment from Virginia
Time: November 18, 2008, 2:11 pm

How about Veronica or Marsailidh?

Comment from deb
Time: November 18, 2008, 2:22 pm

May

Comment from Rachael
Time: November 18, 2008, 3:25 pm

Pollyanna from the childrens novel by Eleanor H Porter.

Comment from Rosa
Time: November 18, 2008, 3:38 pm

Podría ser prima de la mía. Se parecen mucho a pesar de no estar hechas igual.

Comment from Rosa
Time: November 18, 2008, 3:40 pm

Se parecen mucho a pesar de no estar hechas igual.

Comment from Rosa
Time: November 18, 2008, 3:42 pm

Se parece mucho a la mía a pesar de no estar hechas igual.

Comment from Stacy
Time: November 18, 2008, 3:56 pm

Marguerite

Comment from kim warren
Time: November 18, 2008, 4:13 pm

Layla. or Hazel. She’s adorable. Love the hair.

Comment from Barbara
Time: November 18, 2008, 4:26 pm

She is a Tansey

Comment from Jessica
Time: November 18, 2008, 4:47 pm

Ruby!

Comment from Jasmine
Time: November 18, 2008, 5:13 pm

She looks like a Coraline :)

Comment from Mhairi
Time: November 18, 2008, 7:38 pm

She’s a Kirsty!
Or maybe Mhairi-Anne
Or Ruby Rose - to be honest - she does look like a Ruby Rose with her red ribbons and all!

Mx

Comment from elise
Time: November 18, 2008, 7:39 pm

Anouk, perhaps? Or Annika? Or maybe something less fancy, like Ivy.

Comment from Heather
Time: November 18, 2008, 8:20 pm

To me she looks like Annie Apple, what with her red shoes and barrette. And from the sidebar it looks like she’s got a red dress as well, so that’s that for me.

Comment from Michele
Time: November 18, 2008, 9:06 pm

How about a nice Scottish name, like Bonnie or Kenzie.

Comment from Jennifer
Time: November 18, 2008, 9:23 pm

She reminds me of Ramona from the Beverly Cleary books. The name Penelope comes to mind, as does Emma, Elizabeth and Pamela.

Comment from traci~theblondeknitter
Time: November 18, 2008, 9:52 pm

what a sweet doll! so many names to chose from. what or who was your inspiration to make her? maybe use that name in tribute?
i’m sure you’ll pick the perfect name!
:D

Comment from Sheryl Zentner
Time: November 19, 2008, 5:11 am

How about Felicity? She seems happy and full of luck.

Comment from Jolanda
Time: November 19, 2008, 10:01 pm

Definitely a Liliane!

Comment from Rlynn
Time: November 21, 2008, 5:31 am

How about Arlin?
I used to name a doll by my own name because her hair looks like mine :) how narcissistic is that!

Comment from yvonnep
Time: November 24, 2008, 9:11 pm

Why is nobody ever thinking of Yvonne?